As intriguing as the idea of a 13 million digit prime number is, i must ask why people find it useful enough to give out $100,000. But as a generation in the computer age, we are always trying to find a higher number. I think that the age of computers is somewhat diminishing the nature of mathematics. Although computers are very useful to mathematicians and even students, computers can very easily find a number once programmed with an equation. The most famous mathematicians are not those who use technology, but those who, from nature, are able to discover a pattern that allows the field of mathematics to grow beyond what is known.
I've heard of this from Mr. Brown last year. And apparently many people in my class installed this program in their computer. I feel like most people are doing this for the money only. I don’t see the reason for finding the largest prime number. I understand the reason for giving out Noble Prizes and money for scientific discoveries, but why for finding a larger prime number? Scientific discoveries have impacts on our lives (ex. cure diseases). But what does the prime number have anything to do with our life? I feel like finding the largest prime number is more like a silly Guinness Records thing instead of a significant mathematical event
Two great comments! First, is this whole thing silly? I wonder begin to answer that with another question. Does a piece of research need to state its practical application before it begins? Much research is done only to have practical applications develop later.
As for whether computers are diminishing the accomplishment of mathematicians, I would encourage you to remember this when we get into art. Is there something greater about art, or mathematical discoveries, that are produced entirely by humans using tools rather than by the tools themselves?
If finding a larger prime number is a piece of research that will have practical applications developed later, then will there be an end to this research? What if the largest prime number is infinity? Even if there is a limit, this research might take up to centuries before the "largest" prime number is found. If this research is really necessary, for maybe patterns or solving mysteries, isn't the numbers we have so far enough? I believe that we have enough data to create any practical applications we want for prime numbers.
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Former TOK Students Speak Out
Today, when I went to open my links to my required reading for my Intro to International Studies, I laughed out loud as I read the title of the second article we had to read: Epistemology: How You Know What You Know. Something tells me I am already very well prepared for this course thanks to two years of thinking in one class. I hope all is well with you and your classes at North Central and thanks again for two years of one of the best classes I ever took. Alley Murphy
I'm finishing the last 20 pages of the marathon that is Will Durant's Story of Philosophy. You should recommend its 400 dense (both in words and concepts per square inch) pages of 1920's ornate and pristine prose to any exceptional student; if they start now, it would supplement their ToK experience and undoubtedly imbue them with remarkable writing ability. Although I realize that ToK isn't a philosophical survey course, I can't help but see my youth as one of privation for lack of Kant. Spending one class surveying Kant would not only reveal to ToKers the joys of philosophy and the inevitable narrowness of their perspective, it would also provide some support against the arrogant materialists.Benson Tucker, Brown University
A quote by Rousseau was brought up in my Intro to Itnl. Studies class, and it reminded me greatly of TOK.Fred Hendricks III, Indiana University As I was sitting in Mexico, waiting for the VBS my youth group was running to end, I noticed the hue of the sky. It indicated a nearing sunset; thus, it was time to go. I got up only to find it was in fact not time to go but at least half an hour early. I took off my sunglasses. They were spotless, unscratched. They gave me a perfectly accurate view of the world save for tint, and that exception influenced my actions greatly. It got me to thinking what other slight misperceptions of the world could have caused me and others to do. It got me talking about perception back at my hotel room. It got the little TOK voice in my head whirring. Just thought you should know as you begin to plant that questioning seed inside the minds of your new class that your last crop was successful, that even in another country there is no place for your students to run or hide and that even the quiet ones will fall.Kim Hotchkiss, St. Olaf College
Tell all your IB students TOK is the one thing from IB that you will most definitely use in college! I certainly have and I am so happy I was exposed to something like TOK before college. Marissa Hampton, University of California-Irvine TOK is the best class you can take in high school. And, being able to write critically off the top of your head is pretty much what your have to do on all your non-math/science exams. Plus, TOK is generally a heck of a lot of fun. If you can make it through the beginning of junior year, you're golden. I really do appreciate what TOK has done for me.Anna Boch, Harvard University I'm double majoring in political science and criminal justice. I've taken some philosophy classes and in depth political analysis classes already and basically owned them. TOK really gave me a crazy perspective when analyzing texts and debating them. I found that I was much much much more prepared than the majority of the students.Keane Mossman, Indiana University
A couple of years ago I asked a large group of [Katie's] friends if they felt prepared for college and what class at NC helped them the most. This was a group of kids who were at Harvard and Stanford and everywhere in between. They said without a doubt they were better prepared than 99% of other students. They also agreed that the best class by far was TOK because it really taught them to think and question.Sara Lootens, mother of Katie Lootens, Duke University
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4 comments:
As intriguing as the idea of a 13 million digit prime number is, i must ask why people find it useful enough to give out $100,000. But as a generation in the computer age, we are always trying to find a higher number. I think that the age of computers is somewhat diminishing the nature of mathematics. Although computers are very useful to mathematicians and even students, computers can very easily find a number once programmed with an equation. The most famous mathematicians are not those who use technology, but those who, from nature, are able to discover a pattern that allows the field of mathematics to grow beyond what is known.
I've heard of this from Mr. Brown last year. And apparently many people in my class installed this program in their computer. I feel like most people are doing this for the money only. I don’t see the reason for finding the largest prime number. I understand the reason for giving out Noble Prizes and money for scientific discoveries, but why for finding a larger prime number? Scientific discoveries have impacts on our lives (ex. cure diseases). But what does the prime number have anything to do with our life? I feel like finding the largest prime number is more like a silly Guinness Records thing instead of a significant mathematical event
Two great comments! First, is this whole thing silly? I wonder begin to answer that with another question. Does a piece of research need to state its practical application before it begins? Much research is done only to have practical applications develop later.
As for whether computers are diminishing the accomplishment of mathematicians, I would encourage you to remember this when we get into art. Is there something greater about art, or mathematical discoveries, that are produced entirely by humans using tools rather than by the tools themselves?
If finding a larger prime number is a piece of research that will have practical applications developed later, then will there be an end to this research? What if the largest prime number is infinity? Even if there is a limit, this research might take up to centuries before the "largest" prime number is found. If this research is really necessary, for maybe patterns or solving mysteries, isn't the numbers we have so far enough? I believe that we have enough data to create any practical applications we want for prime numbers.
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